Reply : Anonymous 15

Please be informed that None of the comment is filtered but we were told by our legal advisor not to reveal any personal name at this moment. Therefore we just edit any personal name that we found. 

We need more bloggers and those active in social network, forum, article writing etc. We would encourage all investors to use every resource available, get to know your group. If your upline/leader do not wish to cooperate, you should know which side they are in, just ignore them.There should be more than 90% of the investors loosing their hard earned money. FYI many action groups have been formed, joint them and contribute something. Remember action speaks louder than words, and it is not over yet, this is just the begining!

 

Anonymous 15 said...

How come your filtered comments?

October 25, 2009 5:27 PM

Anonymous 14 & sorrow victim

Anonymous 14 said...

Yes we should start our local network to show that we investor stay united so that we fight for our money for return from Le cruez.We must ask Fishmonger to explain to us what accualy happen. What happen to our money.As i know the money was send to Fishmonger , from him where the money goes he should answer to our questions.If there is no solution we must lodge police report against Fishmonger and Le Cruez

October 22, 2009 7:36 AM

sorrow victim ;( said...

i would recomend the entire team before heading to macau get the earlier memorandum signed up by all the investors as one unity /voice and to speak up all the issues mention in the latest meeting held on 20/10/2009 at penang and to be given them a lead time of 1 week for lecruz to come out with a win-win solution for both parties and strictly to refund back all the August & September investment failing with further delay i feel all of us to take next step to go ahead as for the memorandum issued earlier.

October 22, 2009 8:26 AM

JFKY said...

So far is there any updates on what is going on?It is almost 2 weeks since they last provide us with an update about the new plan.

Comments by : heart broken,Anonymous15 & Anonymous16

heart broken said...

hi, Nice to hear some guys are taking some brainstorming moves to handle the new unvaluable package redemption that will never ever get back even our capital.Im really going through a hard time since this was announced.I have invested a large amount and now I cant even recover.The next I think is to commit suicide.All my hard earn money has lost in the breeze. Im pretty sure alot of families are now suffering and having a tough time financially. God, when can we see your grace? Guys, getting a legal authority to handle this problem will might benefit us and very important that no one gets trapped in such scam future.My humble request if anybody is in the legal firm who has invested,pls come forward and give your ides how to move with this matter.Lecruz shouldn't ever just sweep our money of just like that and hand it over to someone else to run the show.When initial part they said MLM was the best marketing strategy and now they say MLM is a flop.If they think they cant cope,return back our capital. It is later up to us whether we want to invest with the other group or not.Not just throwing us out with all our money inside. I had a friend who already resigned job and now he is totally lost all out.Cant imagine how is he now.he even doesnt have the money for the wife who needs a cessarean end of this month....what a devastating time.Buddhist believe in law of KARMA--every action has has an equal reaction.For the damage they have done they have to pay for it.we investors should stay united and as said previously by other investors,get a immediate commitee from our investors with legal advisors to have a pleasant table talk with Lecruz and get things right back.(at least our capital back). Please.Please.Please.We need to be united.Please get more peolple to response to this call. Wake up dear investors. Time is running short.if we dont do it now,never ever forever.

October 22, 2009 8:42 PM

Anonymous15 said...

They had a meeting on 20.10.2009 what was the outcome. Anyupdate ?

October 22, 2009 11:02 PM

Anonymous16 said...

I like you all invested way back in Feb and up until the announcement I have never realise that it would close shop so soon. From US2.90 to HK2.00 and we are ask to be patient , give him a chance , we are all investor and so on. As I see those leders are no batter then Wijaya or Lecruz it is a scam . Wijaya is a front as back in Feb when we went to Macau Wijaya made an apperance now he is the boss. I think this wijaya and some of our Fellow Malaysian cook up this scam to take us. There were a few Fellow Malaysian which show up for our informal meeting at Venatian - 12 o clock Midnight so I thought this is still in its infancy maybe next time batter presentation. I have since erase the video I hope I can find it back and post it here for all to see. Now the 24 hero which went to Macau and came back with nothing now how long is this going to stand? They give this flimsy excuse that because of their scam it would compromise their bigger scam as an excuse to close shop , my son can script it batter what a load of rubbish. Maybe it would be batter it we go hire a private eye and dig up those behind this scam and decide what to collective do with them.

October 23, 2009 4:17 AM

Reply : Anonymous13 & heart broken

As we heard, 21 members were chosen in the new committee but half of them were those who used to stand behind during the meeting and shout  "good !" ,"Yes!" and clap hands, don't be surprised to hear that in Macau they will do the same thing and nothing more than that.Yup! We got to take action! and we got to be prepared if the unexpected happened! Write in to us for the .xml file and create a blog like this if not create your own new blog, youtube video etc. Remember not to pin-point anyone unless you have solid evident.

 

 Reply : heart broken

We sympathized what you are facing but we also like you to know that you are not alone. Our advice is Never think of giving up until you make full used of every resources that you have, stand up for your rights, make full used of the greatest tool that we have today ... the Internet!Your message will be heard throughout the whole wide world. There is still hope to recover our investment, this is not the end but it is just the beginning, its not over until we say its over,we have  not really taken any action yet! Me alone or you alone will not be able to make any different but in unity thousands of us will definitely make an impact! Get to know your group!

 

LAT

Anonymous13 said...

Just heard about 20 upline leaders will be going to Macau for negotiation with ???LECRUZ/VJ.The outcome can be anticipated!(sorry for saying this, but please proof me wrong)1)We will not know anybody behind LECRUZ, except one Mr VJ.2)They can promise anything,just to cool things down, but they don't have to deliver. 3) Leaders could be bought over, and anybody refuse may not be with us for long! The team doesn't have the bite of organised effort and legal documentation as suggested by ANONYMOUS 12.So let us not expect too much from the meeting in Macau. Let's be wiser and be realistic. Stop being just dependant on LECRUZ website. There is no simple honesty in them. We have to develope the network recomended to press for the demand. Shouting match and thumping the table is not going produce anything but final silence.Each downline must call the leaders to develope the network, for all to see to it that they remain accountable.If they fail, next round will be legal representation with 3 downline elected leaders (from each region); and present leaders shall act only as advisors, if needed.IF that (meeting with elected leaders) were not to materialise, we have nothing to loose going all out- via mass police report,( to trace trail of money transaction to Macau),publish the act of reporting with protesters via U-tube and international media to get attention of Macau regulatory authorities and the Macau casinos themselves. Not to forget the impact on Singapore, where LECRUZ targeting to position itself in a big way and the sentiment towards junkets is so far negative. AN EYE FOR AN EYE IS THE FINAL GAMEPLAN if all else fail. (ex-makkal sakhti)

October 22, 2009 8:27 AM

heart broken said...

hi, Nice to hear some guys are taking some brainstorming moves to handle the new unvaluable package redemption that will never ever get back even our capital.Im really going through a hard time since this was announced.I have invested a large amount and now I cant even recover.The next I think is to commit suicide.All my hard earn money has lost in the breeze. Im pretty sure alot of families are now suffering and having a tough time financially. God, when can we see your grace? Guys, getting a legal authority to handle this problem will might benefit us and very important that no one gets trapped in such scam future.My humble request if anybody is in the legal firm who has invested,pls come forward and give your ides how to move with this matter.Lecruz shouldn't ever just sweep our money of just like that and hand it over to someone else to run the show.When initial part they said MLM was the best marketing strategy and now they say MLM is a flop.If they think they cant cope,return back our capital. It is later up to us whether we want to invest with the other group or not.Not just throwing us out with all our money inside. I had a friend who already resigned job and now he is totally lost all out.Cant imagine how is he now.he even doesnt have the money for the wife who needs a cessarean end of this month....what a devastating time.Buddhist believe in law of KARMA--every action has has an equal reaction.For the damage they have done they have to pay for it.we investors should stay united and as said previously by other investors,get a immediate commitee from our investors with legal advisors to have a pleasant table talk with Lecruz and get things right back.(at least our capital back). Please.Please.Please.We need to be united.Please get more peolple to response to this call. Wake up dear investors. Time is running short.if we dont do it now,never ever forever

October 22, 2009 10:55 PM

Reply : Anonymous12

Thanks for sharing, that was a good suggestion .... Seems like most of the people have got the MEMO, anyone who need it please write in or ask from your upline. For the  back up of this blog, there are a few people who have requested for the .xml file(backup file) but we have suggested to them to just keep it for the time being, not to create havoc.  Lets give some time to the new committee, hopefully they come back with some good news.Those who know about blogging may also write in for the .xml file which you can just import into your new blog and everything will be exactly the same like this one.  Anyone can try but please not at the moment.For the time being,call your leaders and get contacts but please don't create havoc, don't pin-point anyone unless you have evidence to backup your claim. We must also respect those who have stood up for us during this critical moment. Remember almost everybody is going through a hard time now.Stay cool and just be prepared just in case..... Many of you still reluctant to write in, so far we have received less than 200 emails, come on! We have more than 8 thousand investors! Well if we have the number at least we can call up Datuk Tony for further discount....

 

 

Anonymous12 said...

Agree with you guys. Thank you for sharing. We have to stand united. But lets be prepared and encourage diverse opinions and course of action with one goal, one objective. For that we to define our objective clearly. 1) insist on orginal quantum promised by LECRUZ.( No third party, Wijaya group or otherwise.) Or pay our capital with interest rate in the same quantum they promised, depending on the time frame they take to pay us; even if they have to liquidate their company! This time we believe no website unilateral anouncements, but legal agreement with our lawyers we collectively hire (cost effective way).2) Start your local network for each area.eg Penang Island, Seberang Jaya, Sungai Petani and Kulim,Ipoh,KL, Klang,JB ect.PLEASE CALL YOUR UP-LINE LEADERS. The so-called LEADERS should share data of e-mail and handphone numbers of investors in areas they sponsor to prove they are with us. They can compile e- mail address by 'location wise' and e mail to down lines. This will facitate formation of groups, for meaningful negotiation with LECRUZ in Macau, with 3 representatives from each location with legal advisors present.This time we must have legal document signed enmass for all represented. We will have to get local lawyers in Macau to do the paper work and stamping. If we share out the legal cost it will be economical. Those who refuse to joint will have depend on the mercy of LECRUZ website for their returns. 3) Can somebody post the copy of MEMORANDUM submited to #001 here for all to read.4) We need to back up this blog, just in case; but best communicate thru this blog, for the sake of coherence.

October 20, 2009 9:56 AM

Reply : Anonymous11

 We are all praying hard hoping for miracle from the new committee, hopefully, a happy ending for everyone. We all knew things didn't go the way it supposed to be but we are still trying our best to make it right, sought out the best solution. The company is still around means that it still open for negotiation.We do not want to see even the smallest investor loosing their money. For the time being stay cool, stay connected, do some homework.... 

 

Anonymous11 said...

Fishmonger took us for a ride!I don't think the drop in CP rates has anything to do with the investment in Indonesia. Instead, it was a well executed scam, introduce high returns, give out impressive gifts, free tours etc. Then, announce a less than attractive scheme about two months in advance and pretend to be 'kind' to 'old time investors' by giving a one month grace (till Sept 30) to 'mop up' all liquid cash and bang!, 'close' the scheme.All these hype about a white knight trying to rescue is just that, hype!Legal option? We got to play our cards right and move in a single voice.

October 20, 2009 6:04 AM

Reply : Anonymous10

 Thanks for the sharing....

Anonymous10 said...

This is the latest suspicious event which has just unfolded. The CP withdrawal for cash is not being TT-ed from Macau or Hong Kong. Do you want to know from where the money is sent from? ha-ha! It is being deposited from an ATM in a small Public Bank branch in Johor Jaya in Johor!! How can an international company with headquarter in Canada and operations in Macau be sending money thru a local bank in Johor? Someone in this country is running this scam business! Furthermore today currency exhange rate for 2HKD is RM0.870830. The cash sent is equivalent exactly to 87 cents only. There is no decimal point in the cash withdrawal and no bank charges. This is how the scam is discovered!Whatever committee being set-up to discuss with Lecruz management or VJ is just another ploy to fool investors. It is our local people using Lecruz for cheating..........

October 20, 2009 4:49 AM